Legislature(2003 - 2004)

02/09/2004 01:39 PM Senate HES

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                SB 285-MEDICAL ASSISTANCE COVERAGE                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The committee took up SB 285.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. JACQUELINE  TUPOU, staff to  Senator Lyda Green,  presented SB
285 on behalf of  the sponsor and testified that  this bill allows                                                              
the  state to  extend  targeted case  management  to various  user                                                              
groups  that  aren't currently  included  in  its authority.    By                                                              
doing so, it  allows for refinancing of general  fund expenditures                                                              
by  reimbursing  the  schools for  the  targeted  case  management                                                              
services.    Secondly,  it  changes   the  state's  rehabilitative                                                              
services  to  match  the  federal   definition  of  rehabilitative                                                              
services.  Doing  this ensures reimbursement for  the school-based                                                              
Medicaid  rehabilitative  services.    It's  estimated  that  this                                                              
legislation  will potentially save  approximately $270  [thousand]                                                              
in FY 05.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN asked,  "How does  this roll  into what  we did  a                                                              
couple years  ago about -- we  asked someone to start  billing the                                                              
feds for something.  Where are we on that project?"                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LYDA GREEN  responded that this bill was  directly related                                                              
to that legislation and she deferred to Commissioner Gilbertson.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOEL  GILBERTSON,  Commissioner,  Department  of  Health  and                                                              
Social  Services  (DHSS),  said  that   SB  285  accomplishes  two                                                              
purposes, and testified as follows:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     One  purpose does  deal with  school-based Medicaid  ...                                                                   
     to  improve  and increase  the  flexibility  for  school                                                                   
     districts ...  being able to bill for  Medicaid services                                                                   
     and  to  assist  them  in  the  documentation  of  those                                                                   
     services.   Also, to address  a deficiency found  in the                                                                   
     current  authority of  the  department  to move  forward                                                                   
     [on what] was found by the Department of Law.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The first  of these  two deals with  the ability  of the                                                                   
     schools  to adequately  document  for services  so  that                                                                   
     they  can  bill.    For  this  reason,  the  legislation                                                                   
     itself   now  directly   cites  the   code  of   federal                                                                   
     regulations   in   the  definition   of   rehabilitative                                                                   
     services.   The  unambiguous  linkage of  the state  and                                                                   
     federal definition  will permit services  recommended by                                                                   
     the  physician or provider  - normally  included in  the                                                                   
     student's  IEP  [Individual   Education  Plan]  -  those                                                                   
     services  normally recommended,  not prescribed, can  be                                                                   
     billed under  Medicaid.  We have an approved  state plan                                                                   
     for therapies,  normally OT,  PT, speech, some  assisted                                                                   
     devices  for  hearing,  some   transportation  services,                                                                   
     nursing  services, and  it is  the department's  intent,                                                                   
     after  passage of  this legislation,  to submit  another                                                                   
     state  plan  amendment  of  the   Medicaid  program,  to                                                                   
     broaden   the  scope,  and   to  include   psychological                                                                   
     evaluation  and counseling  services.   However,  absent                                                                   
     this  change,  and  this inclusiveness  of  the  federal                                                                   
     language,  under the  CFR, we  are now  working under  a                                                                   
     paradigm in which  the doctor has to prescribe  services                                                                   
     as  opposed  to  services recommended  in  the  IEP,  to                                                                   
     allow those services to be billed under Medicaid.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Also,  the   amendment  is   needed  because  when   the                                                                   
     department  began  to  implement  school-based  services                                                                   
     legislation,  SB  345, which  was  passed in  2002,  the                                                                   
     Department of  Law noted that  while the bill  had added                                                                   
     school-based  rehabilitative  services  to the  list  of                                                                   
     covered   Medicaid  services,   in  AS  47.07.030,   the                                                                   
     statutory  definition of rehabilitative  services in  AS                                                                   
     47.07.900  was  left  unchanged.     So  the  scope  was                                                                   
     changed  but   not  the  definition.     That  restricts                                                                   
     rehabilitative    services   only    to   those    adult                                                                   
     individuals  who  are  substance   abusers  or  who  are                                                                   
     chronically   medically   ill.     As   a  result,   the                                                                   
     department   cannot  issue   regulations  allowing   the                                                                   
     school  districts to bill  for rehabilitative  services.                                                                   
     SB  285  fixes  this problem  by  including  a  separate                                                                   
     definition  for   rehabilitative  services   for  school                                                                   
     districts   in  AS  47.07.063,   which  supersedes   the                                                                   
     previous definition that was in AS 47.07.900.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The   second  point   of  this   legislation   addresses                                                                   
     targeted  case management  [TCM]  services.   Currently,                                                                   
     those  services  are  optional  services  under  federal                                                                   
     Medicaid law.   This change,  being put forward  in this                                                                   
     legislation,  coincides  with the  department's  general                                                                   
     effort to replace  the general fund in the  provision of                                                                   
     health  care services  across  the state.   Current  law                                                                   
     restricts  the  provision of  targeted  case  management                                                                   
     services  to  substance  abusers,  chronically  mentally                                                                   
     ill  adults, and  SED (severely  emotionally  disturbed)                                                                   
     children.    TCM  for  these groups  is  funded  at  the                                                                   
     Medicaid program  match rate  of 58 percent federal,  42                                                                   
     percent  state.   This  is  a  change from  the  current                                                                   
     funding  of these  services,  which  is at  100  percent                                                                   
     general fund  dollars.  The  amendment will permit  DHSS                                                                   
     to  identify   additional  groups  that   are  currently                                                                   
     receiving  case management services  that are funded  by                                                                   
     the general  funds, and replace  that with the  Medicaid                                                                   
     match rate of 58 percent federal funds.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Some examples  of services that can be  provided through                                                                   
     TCM services  include:  Children under  the care/custody                                                                   
     of the  Office of Children's  Services or Department  of                                                                   
     Juvenile  Justice   [DJJ]  who  are  not   currently  in                                                                   
     detention   beds;  children   in  the  Infant   Learning                                                                   
     Program, some  public health nursing services;  children                                                                   
     within  the educational  system  who  have an  IEP;  and                                                                   
     targeted  tribal groups.   The  fiscal  note notes  only                                                                   
     minimal general  fund savings for FY  05.  It is  a zero                                                                   
     fiscal  note  because  the  governor's   budget  already                                                                   
     includes   a   $270  thousand   savings   assuming   the                                                                   
     implementation  of this legislation  and the  successful                                                                   
     implementation  of TCM  services in  FY 05.   Much  work                                                                   
     has  to  be  done to  begin  the  services.    Obtaining                                                                   
     federal  approval of  the state plan  amendment to  draw                                                                   
     down  the necessary  funds has  recently  become a  more                                                                   
     prolonged   process  than   previously.     State   plan                                                                   
     amendments  are  becoming  more   difficult  to  receive                                                                   
     approval  on, but  we  do ultimately  receive  approval.                                                                   
     This is  an approvable  state plan  amendment, so we  do                                                                   
     anticipate  implementation at some  point during  FY 05,                                                                   
     and will realize  these savings.  In addition,  billing,                                                                   
     accounting,  and  case  management   systems  will  need                                                                   
     modification  in order  to submit and  support this  new                                                                   
     claiming activity.   These are  some of the reasons  for                                                                   
     there being  minimal savings for  FY 05, but  we believe                                                                   
      that future savings will be much larger for the state.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON acknowledged that Senator Guess was participating in                                                                
the meeting via teleconference.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN said she wanted to respond to inquiries she has                                                                   
received from school districts on this issue and asked when this                                                                
process would be in place.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON  responded there  is a two-pronged  effort                                                              
to implement  this  legislation, recalling  a previous  discussion                                                              
with  Senator  Green  to  get this  fast-tracked.    He  said  the                                                              
regulations  were  developed  and   a  state  plan  amendment  was                                                              
submitted which  was the federal side  of this to get  approval to                                                              
provide these  services.   The state  plan amendment was  approved                                                              
for  some  services,  largely therapies;  the  deficiency  in  the                                                              
regulations was noted  by the Department of Law.  He  said as soon                                                              
as  this  legislation  is passed  and  the  legislative  authority                                                              
exists to  engage in  the services, regulations  would be  put out                                                              
again, there  would be a comment  period, and finalization  of the                                                              
regulations.    An   additional  state  plan  amendment   will  be                                                              
submitted to  expand the scope  of services to include  counseling                                                              
and psychological  evaluation.   Those services  would be  subject                                                              
to  the  time   process  of  getting  the  state   plan  amendment                                                              
approved.   Historically this  hasn't taken long,  but as  of late                                                              
it has taken  quite a bit of  time to get approval by  the federal                                                              
government, he said.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN asked, "Possibly next fall?"                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON replied this would be the goal.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN commented  on the  fiscal note,  saying that  this                                                              
had  been about  a $4  million savings,  which  was an  additional                                                              
amount of money that could be spent in the schools.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN said she didn't remember the amount.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  responded   that  a  sizable  amount  of                                                              
federal  money  will be  gathered  through  school-based  Medicaid                                                              
claiming.   That  money  goes to  the  school districts,  and  the                                                              
districts  provide  towards  the general  fund  maximum,  with  42                                                              
percent  drawing down  58 percent  of  federal monies.   The  $270                                                              
thousand is  the savings  the state  anticipates in FY  05.   As a                                                              
result of the  second part of this legislation,  TCM services that                                                              
allow  for  claiming  some  federal   match  dollars  on  services                                                              
currently being  paid for  with general  fund dollars, that  scope                                                              
of business  and amount of claiming  is expected to  increase over                                                              
the  long-term.    Acknowledging  the  start-up  time,  "we  don't                                                              
anticipate a large savings in FY 05."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  questioned what this  would mean to the  53 school                                                              
districts and asked, "What will be freed up?"                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JON SHERWOOD,  DHSS, responded  that Senator  Wilken "was  in                                                              
the ballpark"  regarding the  total amount  of funds, saying  that                                                              
this  would  bring into  the  school  district the  mechanism  the                                                              
school  district  provides  to  general funds    [indisc.  due  to                                                              
coughing] and  the state process through  the federal funds.   Mr.                                                              
Sherwood  said he  was not  aware  if estimates  had been  revised                                                              
regarding how  fast the money would  come in or if the  amount was                                                              
still the same.   Some of that depends on seeing  what the federal                                                              
government actually approves.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  said the bill  would go on  to Finance,  and asked                                                              
Mr. Sherwood if there  was a way to profile one  district, such as                                                              
Anchorage, and  give a range (low/high)  of what it may  mean five                                                              
years from now.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHERWOOD responded  that the department could come  up with an                                                              
estimate.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  said, "We  would enjoy  seeing that  when it  gets to                                                              
Finance."   He asked Senator  Guess if she  had any questions  and                                                              
then asked  her if  she was  somewhere where  she could receive  a                                                              
fax.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GRETCHEN GUESS  replied that  unfortunately  she was  not                                                              
near a fax, however,  she understood the changes  that Ms. Barrans                                                              
had discussed  regarding the  proposed CS to  SB 277. [SB  277 was                                                              
previously heard during today's meeting.]                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON then  asked if there were any additional  questions on                                                              
SB 285.  Hearing none, he said he would entertain a motion.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN  moved  SB  285  from   committee  with  individual                                                              
recommendations and accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON asked  if  there were  any  objections.   Seeing  and                                                              
hearing none, it was so ordered.                                                                                                

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